In response to your question of the witnesses and for the benefit of the committee, I'll note that a letter was sent in April 2023 to the then minister of transport that outlined the costs that municipalities are bearing, with a response from the railways. It was from the Township of Perth East, in response to an Association of Municipalities of Ontario survey to which 60 municipalities responded, 48% of which had drains across their lands with railways. Unpaid maintenance—this was in the spring of 2023—was $500,000. Unpaid capital construction was approximately $1 million, and about $2.7 million in projects and upgrades was being delayed because of the position of the railways.
That's now a year and a half ago, so those figures would be low. I can table this with the committee.