Definitely, one of the things we actually get from a lot of industry that are looking to sign offtake agreements with us on the protein and on the frass side of things is: Can you get to scale and how quickly can you get to scale? On the protein side, we have several large industrial players in the United States. Cargill and ADM are now looking at soldier flies.
Here in Canada we also have some very large industry groups looking at it. They're all waiting for the industry to scale. I mentioned that in Canada there are about 25 insect farms of various scales. Three to five of them are actually producing large volumes, and several of us are in the process of scaling to that first large-scale industrial process.
One of the things we do need is help getting a lot of these smaller companies out of the R and D phase and into their commercialization phase. In Atlantic Canada we've been very fortunate. There are a lot of government programs that really help a lot of these companies. I'm thinking about ACOA and the funding that we received early as a company that really helped us launch from the R and D phase into the first commercialization phase. It's projects like that where the government can really help.
The other is helping us with the research. Currently, we have about four projects going on with universities to help define and prove out our products. It's through grants, and I think about the most recent NSERC missions grants—