Thank you for that.
Mr. Saindon, I'll go back to you.
In his comments, Mr. Barlow started off by saying—and I think we can all agree—that our farmers and individuals across the country who are part of our agricultural industry are making contributions to the fight against climate change. If we look at a spectrum or a continuum of systems from agroindustrial systems to agro-ecological systems, where would Canada be right now? Is it closer to an agroindustrial system, or closer to an agro-ecological system?