[Witness spoke in Ukrainian, interpreted as follows:]
I can only tell you my personal opinion. It's obvious that every country now, every person in the world, even if they live very far from our region, is paying for this war because they have to pay more for food products. I think that, lately, African countries and all countries in other regions of the world are beginning to understand. Even in Egypt, their tourism, which is historically.... They've always had kind of careful relations with Russia because of the tourism implications, but even that will not prevent them from seeing that now they're paying too high of a price for not speaking out against the war.
What we have seen in the last few weeks is that Russia is beginning to understand this also. That's why we can see that there was a leader from the African Union visiting Russia recently and holding talks. There were statements by Putin that Russia is not against exports of grains from Ukraine, is not preventing anything.
I think he is laying the groundwork for future statements where they will be saying that they are not responsible for the crisis, but that it's Ukrainians together with their western partners who are not able to either organize the exports or don't want to organize exports of grains. I think this is what they are doing. They are laying the groundwork, a foundation for future accusations against Ukraine. Officially, he was making statements that we're not preventing any exports—"Please, go ahead and export"—but how can it be done if you submarines and naval ships there, where there is fighting every day?