[Witness speaks in Ukrainian, interpreted as follows:]
Yes, you're absolutely right. We have our type of railway cars, and the distance between the rails is different in our country from what it is in our European neighbours, so when we get to a border, we have two options. Option number one is to somehow reload the cargo into European railways cars. Option number two, in some countries, for example in Romania, is that there is a special procedure whereby Ukrainian cargo is fixed with actual wheels that are able to use the Romanian railway system.
Of course, it complicates the logistics and complicates the process of transporting goods.
We were not ready for the developments we have now, and because of that we see long delays in crossing borders. It takes a few days. At the same time we see that the European Union doesn't have enough cargo containers because the European Union also wasn't prepared for this particular war and such developments. European businesses are also not ready to quickly build the necessary number of cargo railway cars because in previous years they didn't have such a quantity, and they tell us that if, in a few months, in six months, in one year, hopefully Black Sea ports will open, we will have many railway cars for cargo that we won't be able to use, to fill.
This leads to a situation in which transport in Europe, in terms of the number of these cargo cars, is not increasing in such numbers that we would be able to use to move our grain.
We understand that we used to be able to load a Panamax 70,000-tonne ship over a one-day period, a 24-hour period, but now it will take much longer to use the railway.