I'll speak to one particular example, the Canadian Wetlands Roundtable, where there's a lot of work under way currently on developing valuation metrics for some of these ecosystem services. Across the board, I think that is one of the fundamental challenges in pursuing good ecological services programming. It's making sure there's a concerted effort, with the right people in the room working on creating valuation models or means of putting a price on the public good that producers are providing.
When we look at things like emissions reductions, we see that many of the practices farmers are being asked to employ predominantly have public good and public benefit without necessarily a corresponding private benefit. Addressing that divide is fundamental to this entire discussion and why there is this need to continue exploring programming in this space.