On farm, I'd say the pricing signal is there.
To be clear, even if Bill C-234 were passed, farmers are not made whole from carbon pricing. The second carbon pricing goes up, every year the cost of custom-haul trucking, freight, their inputs and the rest of their day-to-day expenses go up. We're simply asking for an exemption for on-farm food production.
The pricing signal, we feel, is already there. Farmers are not using inputs unless they have to. It is simply too expensive. The costs that we face as suburban or urban Canadians are nothing compared to what a 6,000-acre farm in Saskatchewan faces.
The price signal is philosophically very important for this regime. Farmers are already facing that. This is about just food production, not the rest of their lives outside of primary food production on farm.