It's not an easy question to answer, in that livestock farmers are competing with other livestock farmers around the world. They are in global markets, and competitiveness is front and centre just as much as it is for a grain operation.
For both of those industries, this is a critical issue. I think the reality is that in many instances, our producers are competing in markets with jurisdictions that don't have a carbon pricing pressure on their competitiveness and profitability. When engaging our members, it's one of those commodities referenced by our membership. We hear that it's a critical issue for all of them in their own respective areas.