I will just say that when we look at the impact of carbon surcharges on farmers, we see it's very lumpy. It's very variable from one farm to another, and it's not a reflection of the sustainability of their practices so much as it is a reflection of what they're producing, where they're producing it and the extreme weather events they are facing.
Many of the challenges we're talking about today with grain-drying costs and the heating and cooling for livestock are necessary climate mitigation activities that farmers are taking to respond to the climate conditions they're experiencing on their farms. The challenge with a rebate is that it's a blanket treatment that doesn't necessarily respond to that variability.