To go back to the example from the professor about offsets and so on, and the recognition of it, that's an important part of what producers want and need to see, but that needs time to be developed as well. We're not there yet, but we are paying this carbon tax today. It's coming out of producers' pockets today, right as we speak.
This year's drying costs are increased because of the carbon tax. I think that's an example of something that very practically is pinching producers' ability to invest in new technologies before we even get some of these technologies off the ground. That's what farmers are saying: Let's get these programs developed, and then we can offset and do those kinds of things.
However, the carbon taxes come first, and that's very difficult for producers to deal with, because it's money out of their pockets today.