You know, they're difficult conversations, but I am an optimist. I'm an optimist because we have gotten to a place, after many years of discussion and debate within industry, where all segments of the supply chain—producers, processors, independent grocers and, really importantly, the retailers—have come to the table, all acknowledging that there is a need for a code, that it is important, and exhibiting a willingness to work together to develop one.
I think that in and of itself is a historic step. Now we have all of those sectors working through some really difficult and, let's face it, challenging issues. If it weren't challenging, then we wouldn't have to sit down together to sort out a solution.
So yes, I'm optimistic. I think we can't afford to fail.