Thank you, Chief. I apologize for cutting you off, but my time is so very short.
Mr. Hetherington, a statement you made struck me.
Poverty rates have declined, yet we heard from your testimony that the amount of food bank use is up and through the roof. The typical disposable income for food in Canada has been 9%. It's up to 14%.
You talked about the statistics of housing and whatever else that takes, particularly out of people with lower income levels. Previous testimony to this committee said that basically the food insecurity issue is part of the much larger cost of living issue. You've alluded to that in your testimony. It's an income issue. Can you expand on that jarring dichotomy of poverty rates and food insecurity?