My last question is for the pulse industry. I happen to be a big fan of that as well, being a vegetarian and loving those products.
Mr. Northey, about the shipping, you mentioned that the regulatory burdens are really not your big issue right now and that some of the other countries have looked at these containerized supply chain issues and mapped a path forward. Given that you said there are basically three alliances that control most of the market, perhaps we could learn from the path that other countries have mapped. I'm wondering if you could share some of those findings and some of the specific things you think we can do to address this global problem.