I'll reference our clerk on that. I think, no. What I've said to this committee before is that from my understanding the deputy minister and officials have committed to coming. If we're serious about getting the questions answered, I do think the committee can take up the deputy minister, Ms. Fox, who is tremendous. I've seen her appear before parliamentary committees and I'm sure she can get the answer. Being very close to the flame, I'm sure she could be accountable to this committee. I don't know if Mr. Fraser has been available. I don't think that has been the case yet.
Am I correct, Madam Clerk? Okay.
I have Ms. Rood, Mr. Barlow and then Monsieur Perron.