For the committee and my fellow committee members.... I think that's the crux of the problem. That loading and unloading time is where they lose the hours of service and where the transportation issues come into play. If anyone has ever loaded cattle, they know that sometimes things happen. You get delayed. I think that's where there needs to be some flexibility for our livestock. It's about the safety of the animals, especially when it comes to a situation where you're going east to west or west to east. There is only one facility in this country where you can actually unload and load cattle. That's why we need a little more flexibility.
Cathy Jo, can you give us some examples from your membership of why that flexibility is needed?