Of course I fully agree that we do not want to do anything that's going to increase the price of food. As I've said, I think my honourable colleague would agree that we need to deal with the plastics issue. It's three or three and a half years out, unless the decision is made to change it, and we have to make sure that we set targets and meet them. If you do not set targets, you will never meet your requirement.
What we as a government want to do is to make sure that we deal with the plastics issue. I think everybody would agree that plastic was great, but it's become a big issue. We certainly want to make sure that we don't pass anything down that will hurt the farmer, and that we do not add to the price of food.
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