Just quickly on that, this will be the last thing I ask. I don't want to test my colleagues too much.
How important is it that something like ECCC can move on offset protocols whereby farmers can actually see some revenue coming in for their sustainable practices—a carrot-versus-stick element? What would your recommendation be to the government to move more on that protocol so that farmers could see both sides of this ledger as opposed to seeing it as just a potential threat?