Thank you, Mr. MacGregor.
We'll now turn back to the Conservatives.
Colleagues, if we do exactly two rounds, it will be one o'clock.
Minister, I know you have a busy schedule, but I might try to get in a third round from the Conservatives and Liberals just because there was an anticipation of three rounds, even if it is shortened. We'll make sure that we try to move on that basis.
Go ahead, Mr. Perkins, for up to five minutes.