No, I'm not talking about the CFIA's enforcement. What I'm talking about is the way individuals ship these horses.
My understanding—and our two witnesses here could probably speak to this—is that whether they ship, say, 100 horses three or four at a time in small wooden crates on one plane for a sporting event.... I'd be quite surprised. I've never seen any documentation of that and I have seen a fair bit of footage and seen photos of the many different ways these horses are transported. Those are all—