Yes, absolutely.
It should be noted that there have been cost increases and five statements since the start of the softwood lumber dispute a few years ago. That represents $10 billion overall, including $2 billion for private forestry producers. Programs were implemented, as was the case, but private forestry producers aren't feeling the effects because they don't receive subsidies for their softwood lumber or forests. They can't get financial support, but they're still penalized. The tariffs are now at 35%, which is having a major impact on the sector. We're also seeing a decrease in demand in the private forest sector.