Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Ministers Day and Toews, for being here.
I'll just pick up where Mr. Ménard left off. I have to challenge you, Minister Day. You have three members of the five who are subject to certificates on a hunger strike in Kingston right now. To describe their conditions as humane....
You have one, Mr. Jaballah, who in five years hasn't been able to touch his children. He has only been able to see his children through thick walls of plastic or glass. He doesn't even know what he's faced with because so much of the data is claimed for national security.
By any standards, especially, again, when he hasn't been charged, how do you see that as humane? And what is the justification? I understand--and I want to give you a little defence here--that we've only started in the last few months to put them in federal custody as opposed to putting them in the provincial prison system.
From the attempts this committee itself made for those three members about a year ago to try to get the provincial government in Ontario to change, I know we've not had any justification as to why personal contact is not allowed with family members, including in Mr. Jaballah's case his very young children.