I have a point that I want to make, and then I'll to go to Minister Day.
As part of that denunciation factor, it also gives some permission. It gives permission to do racial profiling and it gives permission for, I'll say, rogue elements within our intelligence services to abuse.
I have a case, Minister Day. I always brought this up with your predecessors, and I'm going to do the same with you.
I have been working on this file for three years. The man has been in the country for 13 years, and his wife came from their country of origin after him. You have this in your office, if you want to check it out. I'll give you the name afterwards.
She has her citizenship, the two children who were born in the other country have their citizenships, the three children who were born here are obviously Canadians, and he's still waiting. I can't get an answer on that.
He quite frankly feels, and I think there's some justification, that the only reason he doesn't have his citizenship in order to get on with his life in Canada is that he's twice been recruited to become an agent and has refused. He's been very vocal in his opposition to the Afghan war and support of the Palestinians. There is certainly no suggestion, from anything I can see, that he is violent.
It's that kind of permissiveness, the official stand where we go to the extreme, that I think the ATA has taken us to. We should be very careful in how we use this legislation. It authorizes that and permits it.
On the one hand, there's a denunciation factor, as we saw with the hate propaganda, and I agree on how important that is. But there's another side to this, and we have to be very careful. As legislators, as ministers, and as senior officials, we have to be very careful that it's not used.
In this particular case, and I have several others in my office right now, I believe there is an abuse going on.