I would ask the committee not to buy into the theatrics of what benefits are provided workers. The reality is that the CAW legal service plan has been a wonderful initiative and a wonderful benefit. What we do is provide lower-cost, negotiated insurance plans through basically a not-for-profit co-op, which brought legal fees down throughout Canada. The reality is that it's about 7¢ or 8¢ per hour that goes into a legal service plan. Workers still have to pay a significant amount when they see a lawyer. There are some things that are covered up to $80 an hour. This is not significant in any way, and that theatrical rhetoric out there, quite frankly, isn't helpful in preserving the auto industry in the debate in Canada.
On March 9th, 2009. See this statement in context.