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Evidence of meeting #1 for Bill C-11 (41st Parliament, 1st Session) in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Christine Holke David

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

I call the meeting to order.

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the much-anticipated, long-awaited legislative committee on Bill C-11. I'd like to welcome everyone here today. I'm looking forward to being your chair. It's very exciting for me as well. I'm looking forward to some very positive debate.

We're trying to put forward an agenda today. We're starting off with committee business, so with that, I'm willing to open it up.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Mr. Chairman--

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

I acknowledge right over here Mr. Lake, Mr. Angus, and then Mr. Regan.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

I think we have to go through the routine motions here. First off, I want to congratulate you, Mr. Chair. I look forward to working with you and with everybody else on the committee. It's going to be an interesting time. We really look forward to it.

With that, I'll just move that the committee retain, as needed and at the discretion of the chair, the services of one or more analysts from the Library of Parliament to assist it in its work.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

Great. Thanks. Is that agreed to by everyone?

(Motion agreed to)

Awesome. Come on up. Welcome to our analysts.

Go ahead, Mr. Lake.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Can I keep going? I don't know how we want to do this.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

Keep going.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Okay. I move that the chair be authorized to hold meetings to receive evidence and to have that evidence printed when a quorum is not present, provided that at least four members are present, including one member from the government and one member of the opposition.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

Is that agreed?

3:30 p.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Pardon me, Mr. Chairman. I move that the motion be amended by replacing the words “and one member of the opposition” with the words “and one member from each of the opposition parties”. The quorum would require one member from each of the opposition parties.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

Okay, I'll open that up.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

I'm just basing this on the routine motion that we've adopted in the industry committee, of which you're a member as well. I've dropped the part about scheduled meetings outside the precinct, because we won't have any, but other than that, the motion is exactly what we have in the industry committee.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

Go ahead, Mr. Angus.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Obviously we all have a desire to be ready, willing, and able to deal with this important piece of legislation. The only question I have is that when we talk about a member of the opposition, the chair is a member of the opposition, so does that mean that if you call a meeting with him...?

I would imagine that the four should include one member of the opposition and one of the government, not counting the chair. That way we are ensuring that—

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

Yes. I just need to—

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

The chair is bound to come because it's his obligation, but if it's one member of the opposition, I'm—

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

He's the one who calls the meeting.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

I call the meeting, but this is a different committee. It's not a standing committee; it's a legislative committee. I'm here basically as the representative of the Speaker, so I don't take part in the debate and I can't vote. Just for clarification, there is that difference between a standing and a legislative committee.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

When we say “one member of the opposition” in this motion—because it's a typical motion—can we get a clarification from the clerk that does it not include Mr. Thibeault?

I see we have that clarification.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

All right. Is there any further discussion?

We have an amendment coming from Mr. Regan. Can you repeat the amendment, please?

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

It is that the quorum be four members of the committee, including one from the official opposition and one from the Liberal Party.

3:35 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

All right. Here's what I have in terms of the amendment: that quorum be four members of the committee, including one from the official opposition and one from the other party.

Is there discussion?

Go ahead, Mr. Del Mastro.

3:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

With due respect to all responsible members' efforts to be prompt and on time at committee meetings, this motion would actually render the committee unable to commence should a member of the Liberal Party, for some unforeseen reason.... It's wintertime, and they could slip and fall. Who knows? We couldn't actually commence the committee meetings if the member from the Liberal Party wasn't present, and there is only one member of the Liberal Party, so you would have all of the committee meetings effectively held hostage by the schedule of the Liberal member who might be attending that day.

I respect why it was brought forward and I understand why it was brought forward, but I would encourage members to vote against it.

Thank you.

3:35 p.m.

NDP

The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault

Is there any other discussion?

3:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

No.