My honourable friend is saying that instead of meeting with stakeholders at committee and on the public record, we should phone and ask them questions. I think that's very dismissive of stakeholders. They expect a lot more from this committee and this deliberation than what you're suggesting we should give to it.
Finally, I think we understand the terms here. We understand the context for working. There's a motion that at least one of our colleagues across the way is going to support, and I think we should see if that's the case.