To echo what Mr. Lake said, to somehow pretend that we can look into a crystal ball and foresee that there would never be any call to move in camera for a consideration that members may feel is appropriate is, I think, impossible, so I would encourage members to not support this motion. It's simply restrictive. I think everyone on the committee understands that we want to have a public discussion with witnesses, obviously in public. I fully supported Mr. Regan's motion to have this committee televised so that we will be able to project what this committee is doing back to Canadians.