Bill C-11 Committee on March 12th, 2012

[The Chair, NDP, Glenn Thibeault]

At the consent of the committee, we can treat them as a block.

Do I have the consent of the committee to move these as a block?

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB]

There are no amendments until clause 12. We are moving that we vote on clauses 5 to 11 as a block.

[An hon. member]

I see what you are doing. That makes sense.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB]

(Clauses 5 to 11 inclusive agreed to on division)

(On clause 12)

[The Chair, NDP, Glenn Thibeault]

We are now moving to clause 12. Is there any discussion on clause 12?

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB]

Can we move the amendment now?

I will move the government amendment on—

[Pierre Dionne Labelle, NDP, Rivière-du-Nord, QC]

On a point of order, we did not accept those clauses. We voted on division on them.

[The Chair, NDP, Glenn Thibeault]

We put on division.

[Pierre Dionne Labelle, NDP, Rivière-du-Nord, QC]

Okay.

[The Chair, NDP, Glenn Thibeault]

Just for clarification again for everyone, the way it works is that you can speak for five minutes as long as you move the amendment within the five minutes. As soon as you move the amendment, then we start the five-minute discussion on the amendment. Then there would still be the five minutes to discuss the clause.

You have the floor, Mr. Lake. We'll go back to you.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB]

Okay, if we could consider the amendment moved, what I am just going to do is go to the officials for an explanation of the impact the amendment would have upon the bill.

[Robert DuPelle, Senior Policy Analyst, Copyright and International Intellectual Property Policy Directorate, Department of Industry]

This amendment would ensure that there is no overlap in terms of rights provided in relation to members of the Rome Convention treaty and the WPPT treaty.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB]

Okay, I'll leave it at that.

[The Chair, NDP, Glenn Thibeault]

Mr. Lake, your party has approximately four more minutes on the amendment.

Seeing no one using that, is there any further discussion on the amendment?

[Geoff Regan, Liberal, Halifax West, NS]

Mr. Chairman, just so I understand it, this really has to do with the cloud. Am I correct about that? I didn't quite hear Mike. As I understand it, this basically is talking about a case where an individual has access at a time and place individually chosen.

I wonder if Mr. Lake could describe what the intent of this is.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB]

As the official said, what it does is correct a payment overlap that may occur when copyright owners are from countries that are members of both international treaties. I think, again, we can probably have the officials give a more technical explanation of it if we need it.

[Geoff Regan, Liberal, Halifax West, NS]

I guess the question, Mr. Chairman, is why would you not, for greater clarity—and once I hear the response I'll decide whether I'm going to move a subamendment—say, “provide a service designed or used primarily for the purpose”, etc.?

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB]

I'll let the officials maybe speak to that.

[Robert DuPelle]

I'm not sure we're speaking about the same—

[Geoff Regan, Liberal, Halifax West, NS]

I'm looking at G-2.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB]

We're on G-1, though.

[The Chair, NDP, Glenn Thibeault]

We're on G-1.

[Geoff Regan, Liberal, Halifax West, NS]

Excuse me.

Sorry.

I'll wait till we get to G-2, then. Thank you.

[The Chair, NDP, Glenn Thibeault]

Thank you, Mr. Regan. If you still want to speak to the amendment of G-1, you still have a few minutes.

[Geoff Regan, Liberal, Halifax West, NS]

No, that's fine.