A tariff, as was heavily debated in C-32, and maybe not so much at this committee yet, is when you impose an additional amount—I know the word “taxes” may be a bit controversial in that aspect—on retailers that would apply to things like blank CDs. Currently in Canada you pay a few cents on each blank CD and it goes toward the collective, and then that collective distributes that amount to artists, somewhat in proportion to what they think people are copying, whose music or movies they think are being copied, mostly just music right now in Canada.
As I said, in Switzerland they have a much stronger regime and they collect a lot more tariffs and a lot more levies, and that's why the rights holders might not be as concerned for all of this uncompensated copying, because they are being compensated through the levy system.