Evidence of meeting #4 for Bill C-11 (41st Parliament, 1st Session) in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was radio.
A recording is available from Parliament.
NDP
The Chair NDP Glenn Thibeault
Thank you, Mr. Conway and Mr. Nantel.
We're well over the five minutes.
Moving on, the next questioner is Mr. Calandra for five minutes.
Conservative
Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Conway, just to be sure I'm correct, you pay for the music that you play?
Conservative
Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
Mr. Skolnik, I was looking at some of the previous testimony we had. Mr. Regan suggested that if he were an artist he probably wouldn't be a very good one. So if Mr. Regan were out there and he had made a CD, he would not likely have sold any CDs, based on what he has told us today.
Conservative
Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
So if he's out there and he has not sold any of his CDs and has no radio play, how much is he making from the levies that you talk about? What is his cut?
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
From the levies? If he's not getting any—
Conservative
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
If he's not getting any airplay and he's not—
Conservative
Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
He has no CD sales and no airplay. What is he getting?
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
He's getting his dad helping him; that's what he's getting.
Conservative
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
In that case he's only earning from live performance, so he's getting nothing. If he's playing—
Conservative
Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
I'm sorry, I don't have a lot of time. I don't mean to be rude, but I have to go quickly.
So he has sold nothing, he has no CD sales, he has no airplay, and he's not getting any royalties.
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
He's getting live performance royalties, perhaps.
Conservative
Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
Okay.
So it stands to reason that the more airplay he gets, the more CDs he sells and the more revenue he gets. Is that correct?
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
It's a crazy formula. That is possible, yes.
Conservative
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
They have a system whereby necessarily airplay has nothing to do with this. Airplay doesn't necessarily get you more money, but it could.
Conservative
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
Sales would get him more money, sure.
Conservative
Paul Calandra Conservative Oak Ridges—Markham, ON
So the more popular he becomes and the more successful as an artist he becomes, the larger his share of those revenues.
Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Musicians
That is so for him as an individual, but not for his band.
