Right. We also heard this from those who are distributing works through, specifically, small radio outlets, people who are employing maybe up to 50 employees in their operations. We heard some of the challenges they face in terms of making sure they do pay their fair share, but that they don't pay too much because someone in this equation has a sense of their own interests, which leads to them wanting more of the equation than the equation can handle, or else it all collapses because everybody's so interdependent.
I'd like the Shaw people to comment on this, if you would. Wouldn't it be advantageous to all the players if the balance were struck the right way and we had that incredible opportunity as a country to expand our digital commerce? Wouldn't it be of great benefit to the creators, to the people creating the works, because of what would open up to them?