On producer cars, again, the number one issue would be to make sure that railways serve farmers with producer cars and that there is timely delivery and timely pickup to make sure that farmers get the benefit of the producer cars the way they have to date. Again, the more you can aggregate cars and grain, the more clout you have with regard to service agreements and grain handling agreements. All of that, in aggregation, would work better.
As far as ships are concerned, that's way above my pay grade to talk about.