He's only one. As I said earlier, Allen Oberg condoned the participation of Ian White.
All I really want to say here is that the presentations of the Wheat Board to the working group were focused on two things. One was marketing issues, and the second was access issues and the question of whether regulation was required in terms of access to ports and inland terminals. So that's the kind of exchange that occurred between the working group and the Wheat Board.
With respect to the minister--and I'm now speaking as a deputy minister--there have been exchanges of letters between Allen Oberg, as the chair, and Minister Ritz on the issue of transition costs. The nature of the letters was such that Allen Oberg set out the estimated costs for a windup. I think he assumed the Wheat Board would disappear as of January, which was not the case. There were issues around mitigation of cost. We have not been able to discuss the details of these transition costs. So again, at the end of the day, once there is assent to the bill, with the new governance, the officials can work with the new board to establish a new plan for a viable entity.