Evidence of meeting #4 for Bill C-18 (41st Parliament, 1st Session) in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was board.
A recording is available from Parliament.
9:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
I'm not sure that follows the normal rules, but I will let you entertain Mr. Martin....
9:40 p.m.
Liberal
Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON
I would recommend that clause 64.1(1), which is the proposed amendment by Mr. Martin, read that, two years after the coming into force of this Act, prior to any application made pursuant to subsection 42(1), and upon such application being made, no such reporting requirements shall be further required.
9:40 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
Just for my own edification, the clause you're referring to would be the clause that would propose to wind down the organization. Is that correct?
9:40 p.m.
Liberal
Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON
It's the clause that would propose continuance under one of the three pieces of legislation, the Canada Business Corporations Act, the Canada Cooperatives Act, or the Canada Not-for-profit Corporations Act, the clauses to which I referred to earlier.
9:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
Could you just pause for one second, please?
I'm going to confer with the clerk to make sure the proposed amendment is in order.
Would you mind reading it one more time as you've already stated? Take your time.
9:45 p.m.
Liberal
Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON
If I'm looking at his clause, it would be that two years after the coming into force of this section, and prior to making any application, pursuant to subsection 42(1) of the act, and upon such application no such further requirement to report...no, it's that such further requirement to report to Parliament shall cease.
9:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
Mr. Martin, do you accept that as a friendly amendment or shall we proceed down the path of a subamendment and deal with it individually?
9:45 p.m.
NDP
Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB
I don't think there is such a thing as a friendly amendment in my experience, but I'm not averse to the idea. I can't stop him from moving a subamendment. I would support the subamendment.
9:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
Mr. Valeriote, for the purposes of the rules, I think we should deal with this as a subamendment.
Do you wish to speak to the subamendment? The Liberal Party still has 1 minute and 40 seconds.
9:45 p.m.
Liberal
Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON
Only briefly, and thank you, Mr. Chair.
It makes total sense that this new transformed interim corporation, as it is, report to Parliament within two years, and prior to making any application before it should be, in terms of the legislation, “commercialized”, under part 3.
9:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
Very good: we've heard the terms of your subamendment. The question before the committee now is on the subamendment.
9:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
Before we do that, Mr. Valeriote, Is there anyone else who would like to speak to the subamendment?
Mr. Valeriote has asked for a recorded vote. I'll call the question. The question is on the subamendment.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
The subamendment is defeated. We're going to move back to the amendment.
9:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
Mr. Lafleur, the question is on the amendment. We have a recorded vote.
(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])
I declare the amendment defeated. As that was an amendment to propose a new clause, we have no further clauses in this bill to deal with, other than going back to clause 1.
Shall clause 1, the short title, carry? All those in favour?
9:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
It's a recorded vote, Mr. Lafleur. The question is on clause 1.
9:50 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Storseth Conservative Westlock—St. Paul, AB
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, you really can't call for a recorded vote after you've called the question. I could quote you the pertinent page in O'Brien and Bosc, if you like, but you did call the question.
9:50 p.m.
Liberal
Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON
On that point of order, Mr. Chair, I think you were reasonably quick to call the vote following requesting discussion.... With respect, I understand that we're anxious and it's late, but I think I was in time to ask for a recorded vote.
9:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
I'll give you this one, but if Mr. Storseth raises it again, I will respect the rules and procedures. I am talking quite slowly and moving quite slowly, purposely, on the request of your colleague Mr. Easter.
We will have a recorded vote.
(Clause 1 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
9:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Blaine Calkins
The clause carries.
Moving on to the title, shall the title carry?
9:50 p.m.
Liberal
Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON
A recorded vote again, sir.
(Title agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
9:50 p.m.
Liberal
Frank Valeriote Liberal Guelph, ON
Recorded vote again, sir.
(Bill as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])