—that government members opposite were laughing. It's not funny, the loss of single-desk selling. The empirical evidence throughout the years has been that the Canadian Wheat Board returns more back to primary producers than the open market. It results in greater efficiencies in the transportation system. There's political and economic clout by the Canadian Wheat Board on behalf of the farm community.
The empirical evidence is there, but if there's one thing I will say about this government, it doesn't matter whether it's the crime agenda or any other agenda, they don't let the facts get in the way of their ideology. What this witch hunt on the Canadian Wheat Board is all about is ideology over facts. We know it; you folks just won't admit it.
Anyway, we will support that amendment, Mr. Martin, because your amendment takes it out of the hands of government, out of the minister's office, and out of big government, and puts at least some semblance of control back in the hands of primary producers, the people who would use the Canadian Wheat Board rather than have it run by an ideological government in Ottawa.