Okay, it varies.
I have here a letter from PSAC that actually says your board cannot get involved in matters of harassment. With Ms. Gualtieri's case, for example, PSAC wrote her saying that your board did not have jurisdiction over harassment cases unless it actually led her to leave her job, which would be a case of constructive dismissal.
So a whole host of harassment situations could occur prior to the board even having jurisdiction over dealing with it. So the board would not have the ability, under the current situation, to rectify those situations where someone has not lost their job but they have experienced serious harassment.Those are a whole series of situations that under the status quo the board would not be able to deal with. I'm glad we've had those clarifications.
I'd also like to address the issue of expertise, because some have suggested that judges will sit there with a blank stare because they won't have the expertise. Judges deal with DNA evidence, scientific information, criminal issues, divorce, forensics, financial accounting, environmental issues, health-related matters. From one case to the next, they change on a dime, moving from one area of expertise to another. So would you not agree that it's perfectly reasonable to expect that a judge could interpret matters related to a reprisal against a whistle-blower?