I, for one, don't reject ideas merely because of where they come from. I judge them on their own merit. Regardless of where the idea came from, if any government was able to recover $10 billion worth of stolen money, I think that's $10 billion that can go back into programs that your union supposedly cherishes. So I think any method of bringing those dollars back would be a good method. But ultimately the only way to recover money that's stolen by fraud is through the court system. There is no other way. There is no other legal means by which to do it.
So you can talk about your ideals of avoiding the court system at all costs, but ultimately you cannot do that if companies like the Liberal ad companies that we are now pursuing for the money they stole.... They are being pursued by the courts, and you have to--