If I could just make a comment on this. Obviously, if any official of the Ontario Nurses' Association were to meet with any government official, by virtue of the fact that they are with the association, the public would know that nurses have an agenda and are trying to adopt that.
The problem is that if I'm working as a lawyer in a law firm or some private company and I'm lobbying on behalf of clients, then the public doesn't know who those clients are. That's where there could be greater mischief if there isn't proper disclosure of who it is that is really the beneficiary of the discussions between the lobbyist and the government official.