Evidence of meeting #17 for Bill C-2 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was make.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jenefer Curtis  Independent Journalist, As an Individual
René Villemure  President, Institut québécois d'éthique appliquée
Pierre F. Côté  Former Chief Electoral Officer of Québec, As an Individual
Michel Quintal  Project Manager, Institut québécois d'éthique appliquée
Paul Cantor  Chairperson, Public Sector Pension Investment Board
Gordon Fyfe  President and Chief Executive Officer, Public Sector Pension Investment Board
Assunta Di Lorenzo  First Vice-President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary, Public Sector Pension Investment Board
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Miriam Burke

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I have a point of order.

A point of order is a point of order. I don't think you can decide not to hear a point of order, sir. I have a point of order, and as a matter of process, I believe it is a legitimate point of order.

We've heard Mr. Sauvageau insult us all a couple of times now by saying that this committee is implying that the chief law clerk is biased. No one at this table said that at any time tonight or that the law clerk submitted this document to sway the debate. No one said that at this table, and I resent it being implied or the association with it.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

You misunderstand, I'm asking for unanimous consent to have the witnesses appear before the committee.

8:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Martin is speaking.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

I was referring to what Mr. Petit said. I was not speaking about you, Mr. Martin.

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

It's my opinion that no one insulted the law clerk. I would uphold and defend the reputation of Mr. Walsh, anytime. If he brought something to our attention, it's for the most honourable of reasons--nothing dishonourable.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chairman, I think there must have been a problem with the interpretation. I wasn't the one who said that. I said that Mr. Petit said that the law clerk had tried to sway the committee. I never said that the clerk had tried...

Perhaps you misunderstood, Mr. Martin.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Do we have any more debate on the amendment?

When I said the amendment, I meant Mr. Martin's amendment.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I have something.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Yes.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I have a proposed amendment to Mr. Martin's amendment. I know that it will get unanimous support and probably won't even need any debate because there will be such overwhelming support for it.

I move an amendment that we call the law clerk and parliamentary counsel and any other officials he chooses to bring with him on Monday evening.

All in favour of that amendment?

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Wait a minute, I'm the chair, and don't forget it.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Well get on with it, then. We're waiting for you.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Is there debate on the subamendment?

I see a hand here.

Ms. Jennings.

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

On a point of clarification, would you put a date to that Monday? The date includes the day, the month, the year. Am I correct in assuming that you would be in agreement to say you're talking about Monday, June 5, 2006?

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Yes. I was hoping it could be last Monday, but we don't have a time machine here.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

All those in favour of Mr. Poilievre's subamendment.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chairman, I have a point of order.

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Point of order.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Is the sub-amendment in order, Mr. Chairman?

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

It is out of order, Mr. Chairman.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Before we vote, I want to know whether it is in order to make a sub-amendment of this nature to an amendment.

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

It is out of order. It is inconsistent with the intent of the motion.

8:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Monsieur Sauvageau is correct. So we will vote on Mr. Martin's amendment.

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

And then on my motion.