Evidence of meeting #17 for Bill C-2 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was make.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jenefer Curtis  Independent Journalist, As an Individual
René Villemure  President, Institut québécois d'éthique appliquée
Pierre F. Côté  Former Chief Electoral Officer of Québec, As an Individual
Michel Quintal  Project Manager, Institut québécois d'éthique appliquée
Paul Cantor  Chairperson, Public Sector Pension Investment Board
Gordon Fyfe  President and Chief Executive Officer, Public Sector Pension Investment Board
Assunta Di Lorenzo  First Vice-President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary, Public Sector Pension Investment Board
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Miriam Burke

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Okay. Well, I moved my motion. I thought we were asking for unanimous consent on the motion.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Is there discussion on this motion?

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

No.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

No. Let's get it done.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Just be patient.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Far be it from me to stop our tails, but, bearing in mind our agreed deadline, if Mr. Walsh were to suggest amendments when he appears before the committee, would they be in order?

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

They would have to be in order.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Let us say, for example, that Mr. Walsh appears before the committee and Mr. Petit realizes that he is a non-partisan official who does not want to cause anybody any problems; if he suggests a major amendment would it be deemed to be in order? I ask the question in light of the schedule that we have just adopted.

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

It is up to the chair to answer the question, not you.

8:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Could you just give me a moment here to read what is going on here?

On Mr. Martin's amendment, which we voted on, the latter part of it says that the committee members may introduce additional amendments, provided they are submitted to the clerk 24 hours before the clause in question comes before the committee.

We've passed that. Okay. Where are we now?

Do you have a point of order, or what are you...?

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

I have a point of clarification that I'm seeking from the chair before we go to a vote.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Yes.

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

If I understand the amendment, the motion of Mr. Poilievre, which we adopted, as amended by Mr. Martin, would then mean that if Mr. Walsh comes, and for instance if he is unable to come on Monday and comes on Tuesday, and suggests some amendments, there is theoretically, hypothetically a possibility that by the time the notice for amendments comes through we may have already dealt with a clause.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

It's 24 hours--or, as has been described to me, a sleep.

The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Miriam Burke

We're starting clause-by-clause next Wednesday.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I know that.

We're starting clause-by-clause the next day.

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

I understand that.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Yes, okay.

Monsieur Sauvageau.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chairman, could you simplify things for us and rule that any amendments suggested by Mr. Walsh when he appears before the committee will be deemed to be in order? Could we say that if Mr. Walsh tables amendments when he appears before the committee they will be deemed to be in order, whether we have had 24 hours notice, or a sleep, or not? Do you understand me.

Monique Guay Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

If not, the bill could be completely invalid.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Sauvageau, as you know, only members can make amendments. Mr. Walsh can't propose an amendment. You or anyone else can extrapolate from what he is saying and move an amendment.

We have a motion on the floor.

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

You are right. Does that mean that Mr. Walsh can give us his amendments?

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

All right.

(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Now, Madame Jennings. You thought I forgot all about you, didn't you?

Marlene Jennings Liberal Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC

Mr. Chairman, I know that you could never forget me, because I'm always a thorn in your side.

My motion is very clear. The intent is to invite a panel of former chairs of the Public Service Labour Relations Board to appear before the committee to answer questions that several members, from all parties, asked of Ms. Sylvie Matteau, the board's acting chairperson, but which she was unable to answer given her position.