Bill C-2 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) Committee on June 7th, 2006

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

What in Sam Hill is going on here? I can't get a word in edgewise. Every time it's my turn, it's no longer my turn.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

We're not going to forget about you, Mr. Martin.

[Marlene Jennings, Liberal, Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC]

Mr. Martin, I apologize for interrupting while you were speaking, but I believe the chair neglected to call the vote on my amendment, which I had moved.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

No, we haven't forgotten anything. Mr. Martin.

[Marlene Jennings, Liberal, Notre-Dame-de-Grâce—Lachine, QC]

Then why are we skipping around?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Because they conflict.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

Jesus, we're debating your amendment, Ms. Jennings.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

We're still on page 5.1. We're still there. It's going to take us a while to get on to this folks, so try to be patient and keep cool.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

So the amendment we have on the floor, which is properly on the floor, I see as a very standard non-derogation clause.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Page 5.1?

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

It's 5.1. It deletes lines 12 to 17 on page 6, which we could stop and look at if it is necessary. Then it adds a very clear non-derogation clause, that nothing in this is supposed to abrogate or derogate from any of the privileges, etc.

Now, there's been a motion that we adopt it, and I'm favour of this. I don't agree that my motion following, 5.4, in any way contradicts this.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Okay. Then we're going to continue on with 5.1. Is there any further discussion on 5.1?

All those in favour of 5.1? All those opposed?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Okay, Mr. Martin, we're on to 5.4.

Mr. Martin, are you proceeding on 5.4?

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

No. I intend to withdraw 5.4 when we get there.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

We're there now, sir.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

What happened to 5.2?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

It was identical to 5.1.

[Pat Martin, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

I've got it.

I intend to withdraw 5.4.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Okay.

Madame Guay, on a point of order.

[Monique Guay, Bloc, Rivière-du-Nord, QC]

Mr. Chairman, when two amendments are similar, can you advise us of the fact? That way, we'll know where we stand.

You jump from 5.1 to 5.4 without telling us that 5.2 is moot. Let's proceed one page at a time, even though we know the same amendment is repeated three times. That way, we'll delete what should be deleted, and it'll be done. For the moment, it's not clear.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

That's what I thought we were doing. But thank you, and I'll do my best. The committee will have to bear with me.

We're on to page 6, which is government.

Mr. Poilievre.

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Nepean—Carleton, ON]

I move amendment G-4.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

So moved.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Conservative, David Tilson]

Page 7, and G-5.

We're going too fast, apparently.

Okay, Mr. Poilievre, the question to you is whether you intend to move only the French, or would you intend to move the English?

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Nepean—Carleton, ON]

The French and the English. There's G-5 here. It says “ministerial staff shall”. G-5 in French says “ministériel ou à tout personnel”.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])