Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The provision would add the amended phrase to the end of subsection (5) in section 86 of the Parliament of Canada Act and to subsection 87(5) of the Parliament of Canada Act.
Both of these provisions are “for greater certainty” clauses. They're a guide to the person who's interpreting all of section 86 and all of section 87. Just in case there's any doubt in the person's mind, they're saying that when you're applying section 86 and section 87, you are not limiting any of the privileges or rights of the Senate with respect to section 86 or the House in section 87.
When you add the words “except ministers”, the inference to be drawn, I would suggest, is that you are in fact affecting the privileges of ministers. Is that the intention of the amendment?