I found that very useful, Mr. Wild's intervention and Mr. Owen's, because my thought process is coming around to very much the same thing, that with either one of these figures--the $50,000 or the $5,000--it's almost as if we're trying to replace the courts. If we are going to apply this large...whether you call it a levy, or a penalty, or a fine to other aspects of the commissioner's activities, other due process, and natural justice, and rules of evidence, all of this would have to kick in or it would be vulnerable to huge challenges. Even before we left this room, we'd be getting challenged on it.
So I'm going to vote against the Bloc motion, the $50,000.