Evidence of meeting #24 for Bill C-2 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joe Wild  Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Treasury Board Portfolio, Department of Justice
Marc O'Sullivan  Acting Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, As an Individual
Marc Chénier  Counsel, Democratic Renewal Secretariat, Privy Council Office
Michèle Hurteau  Senior Counsel, Department of Justice
Paul-Henri Lapointe  Assistant Deputy Minister, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Susan Cartwright  Assistant Secretary, Accountability in Government, Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat
Werner Heiss  Director and General Counsel, General Legal Services, Department of Finance
Susan Baldwin  Procedural Clerk
Chantal Proulx  Senior Counsel, Legal Services and Training, Office of the Commissioner of Review Tribunals Canada Pension Plan/Old Age Security
Michel Bouchard  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Justice

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We're going to vote on amendment BQ-18.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(On clause 111)

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

On clause 111, amendment BQ-19 and amendment NDP-8.4 are the same.

Mr. Sauvageau, you could make a motion. That's on page 95.

9:55 a.m.

Bloc

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

I believe this is a mistake, Mr. Chairman. I won't introduce amendment BQ-19.

9:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

The amendment is withdrawn.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Martin.

10 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I will move this motion, that Bill C-2 be amended by deleting clause 111, because it deals with the same issue of secret ballot votes, and we were asked by the law clerk to address this, unless it....

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm going to rule it inadmissible. Do you want me to go through it?

10 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

No, that will be fine. It will save us all some time.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

All right.

We're voting on clause 111. Do you want to have a chat, or what do you want to do here? Is there debate on clause 111?

Monsieur Sauvageau.

10 a.m.

Bloc

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

If we support clause 111, we're supporting a secret ballot. If we vote against clause 111, we're doing what we've done from the start, that is vote against a secret ballot.

10 a.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

Mr. Chair, could you give us 30 seconds?

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'll give you a minute.

10 a.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

You're a good man, very generous.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

What are you going to do?

10 a.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

We're with you. We'll call for the question.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

All right. We're going to vote on clause 111.

(Clause 111 negatived)

(On clause 112)

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Clause 112 still is on the appointment process, and we go to Bloc Québécois amendment BQ-20. That's on page 96.

Mr. Sauvageau.

I might say, before Mr. Sauvageau speaks, that it is the same as amendment L-13.3 and amendment NDP-8.5.

Mr. Sauvageau, you can move amendment BQ-20.

10 a.m.

Bloc

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chairman, I'm pleased to introduce amendment BQ-20. Having regard to amendments L-13.3 and NDP-8.5 and the result of the last vote, I would be the most surprised man in the world if this amendment were negatived.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Let's have a vote and find out.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 112 as amended agreed to)

(On clause 113)

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We're going to move to clause 113, which is still on the appointment process, and to amendment G-35 on page 97.

Mr. Poilievre.

10 a.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON

I move this amendment.

10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Is there debate? No.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Next is a Bloc amendment. It's on page 99, amendment BQ-21.

Monsieur Sauvageau, you could make that motion, please.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Benoît Sauvageau Bloc Repentigny, QC

Mr. Chairman, I've just found the word I had been searching for since this morning, the word "concordance". So I'm tabling this amendment so that we can vote to withdraw this clause for reasons of concordance.

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

You're going to withdraw it? That's fine, thank you.

We're going to vote on clause 113 as amended.

(Clause 113 as amended negatived)