Mr. Chair, you've got a handle on it, but I was going to say the member opposite, whom I respect very much, is trying to circumvent the rules that you have established by trying to get too cute by half in trying not to refer directly to Mr. Martin, but by referring to a member of the opposition not of the Bloc or of the Liberals. It's obvious who he's talking about.
I thought the intent of your ruling, sir, was to make sure we stop this baiting. If Mr. Sauvageau or any member of the opposition does not want to support this clause, or wishes to support the clause, then let's deal with the clause and vote on it.