I can't comment in terms of those two particular instances. I am not the technical expert on the act. I can say that the school has been active in terms of meeting with departments and deputy heads. Deputy ministers are now responsible for all the learning in their departments. We have been making a big effort to get out to talk to public servants and professional groups, and nowhere have we felt or heard of that demoralizing effect. In fact, most public servants are so excited about the learning agenda and that for the first time there is a learning policy for the public service that they are very much more focused and happy to showcase both their professionalism and their technical knowledge.
I can't comment, but can only say that public servants haven't mentioned it to me.