I would add that this is the difficulty we're facing with this new model, represented by the tribunal. On issues of harassment, a complaint is made and there's an investigation. If both were members, we would represent them both in the investigation. There are findings in the investigation and then management disciplines. That discipline can be grieved and is heard before the PSLRB, and there's then a process of judicial review.
What we're faced with under this model is this inquisitorial board hears the issue, decides if there's been a reprisal, and then disciplines. The person disciplined is then faced with a judicial review process. It is a more difficult process and a much higher test, criticizing the Superior Court judges, than simply going to the Public Service Labour Relations Board or through the grievance process. We're faced with two completely different models.
I don't think anyone's trying to say that reprisals are worse than harassment. I think harassment is equally horrible. But we're faced with this new model and this idea of how to deal with the disciplines that flow out of it.