I believer Dr. Kalt and Dr. Cornell have appeared before parliamentary and House committees here over the last few years and have gone over that report. As you've indicated, sir, their findings draw a direct line between healthy economies and healthy people and the degree of self-reliance and self-determination, having programs and services that are designed for the people, by the people, having culturally appropriate institutions that support those programs and services. There's a direct line between all those things.
The Auditor General in fact I think helped support that yesterday when she talked about how there's a direct relationship between the involvement of first nation people in programs and service design and the likelihood that those programs and services will meet the needs of first nation people. While perhaps those things may be like common sense, she also indicated 35 years of difficulty making that happen here in Canada.