I know you asked the gentlemen to speak to this, but I would like to speak to this because I think the presumption that we come without any knowledge or understanding of victims is misleading. It's cynical. I have a daughter who is growing up without a grandfather because he was murdered. I have friends, family members, who have been severely victimized in the way you are suggesting we would not have any appreciation of.
So I would ask you, sir, to please refrain from presuming that because we come with a perspective that doesn't accord with yours, we have no lived experience.
I would like to then address your--