Just to draw a circle around this, once again we are into a situation where we consider what the charter guarantees actually apply to. Sections 11 and 13, which are the self-incrimination and presumption of innocence provisions, are all formulated in terms of charged with an offence. The case law may very well have something to say on that. I'm not going to point one way or another on that. Section 7 definitely has its application to look for the....
The courts are looking for fair procedure and for fundamental justice.