New Zealand is a small country. It's not a federal country. It had an upper house and it abolished it. Australia is geographically a much larger and more diverse country, and of course it has an upper house, but it has mechanisms for dealing with conflict. It's a triple-E Senate in Australia, and it has provisions of a kind that you are indicating, Mr. Murphy, for resolving conflict. I think at a certain point they have a joint sitting of the two houses, and because the House of Commons is more numerous, it usually means that the House of Commons can prevail.
