New Zealand is a small country. It's not a federal country. It had an upper house and it abolished it. Australia is geographically a much larger and more diverse country, and of course it has an upper house, but it has mechanisms for dealing with conflict. It's a triple-E Senate in Australia, and it has provisions of a kind that you are indicating, Mr. Murphy, for resolving conflict. I think at a certain point they have a joint sitting of the two houses, and because the House of Commons is more numerous, it usually means that the House of Commons can prevail.
On April 16th, 2008. See this statement in context.